Are you a former member of School? Even for a week or a night? Or do you know someone who is in School, or was? This post will be a forum for your comments.
Your book was fascinating and very well written. I felt like I was living it, not just reading it. One question I have is about self-remembering, basically the whole point of the Fourth Way, as I understand it. After that vague description given by one of the teachers, was it ever explored any more? Did you ever experience higher consciousness through self-remembering? As you say it’s foundational. I’m wondering if any of the teachers ever actually laid out a foundation for the students to build on?
Thanks for your kind words. Self remembering was discussed constantly. No details on how to do it were ever given. And nobody asked. No foundation. It was assumed. It was the emperors new clothes. Leaders were the sole arbiters as to whether anyone was remembering themselves. As I discuss in another post, the fourth way is a complete sham.
As you reflect back on your survival from your 23-year ordeal, to what do you ascribe Sharon Gans’ ability to lure, control, exploit and yet retain students for so long? Was it her spiritual development/consciousness, or her powers of personality, or some specific attributes you now see kept you in for so long?
Firstly, this is Spencer Schneider responding: unfortunately my browser is not recognizing me. To answer your question: Gans had no spiritual/consciousness or powers of personality. She was a con-artist. She had the ability to identify people's weaknesses and convince them she could help them.
Spencer, I was a member of school from mid-1991 through the summer of 1992. I recall many of the events you spoke of During that period , And I think I vaguely remember you in the Monday and Wednesday night class. i just purchased your book and find it fascinating ... It's really like reliving some of the things I remember from 30 years ago. The book is fascinating and I am so grateful you wrote it, as I have been searching for Information about the group for 30 years. Although it was very very difficult for me to leave after a year , I had seen what I thought was incredible manipulations going on. I believe if i didn't leave at that point I would never leave. Bless you. john c.
This is Spencer Schneider responding: unfortunately my browser is not recognizing me. Thank you for your kind words. Would love to connect with you - my emails is spencer3000@gmail.com
I was part of Alex Horns Monday night group at a church on 86th Street for a little more than one year. Ken Salas was posing as a student at this time. I was recruited by Frank Butler. Sharon would occasionally show up and was treated as a demigod. Over time I found out that Alex was having students marry each other and telling others to have children. The last straw for me was when Alex demanded that I slander my father, who I loved dearly. When I refused he demanded that I pay double the $500 tuition to remain in the group. I walked out that night and feel fortunate that I got away
Your book was fascinating and very well written. I felt like I was living it, not just reading it.
ReplyDeleteOne question I have is about self-remembering, basically the whole point of the Fourth Way, as I understand it. After that vague description given by one of the teachers, was it ever explored any more? Did you ever experience higher consciousness through self-remembering? As you say it’s foundational. I’m wondering if any of the teachers ever actually laid out a foundation for the students to build on?
Thanks for your kind words. Self remembering was discussed constantly. No details on how to do it were ever given. And nobody asked. No foundation. It was assumed. It was the emperors new clothes. Leaders were the sole arbiters as to whether anyone was remembering themselves. As I discuss in another post, the fourth way is a complete sham.
DeleteAs you reflect back on your survival from your 23-year ordeal, to what do you ascribe Sharon Gans’ ability to lure, control, exploit and yet retain students for so long? Was it her spiritual development/consciousness, or her powers of personality, or some specific attributes you now see kept you in for so long?
ReplyDeleteFirstly, this is Spencer Schneider responding: unfortunately my browser is not recognizing me. To answer your question: Gans had no spiritual/consciousness or powers of personality. She was a con-artist. She had the ability to identify people's weaknesses and convince them she could help them.
DeleteSpencer, I was a member of school from mid-1991 through the summer of 1992. I recall many of the events you spoke of During that period , And I think I vaguely remember you in the Monday and Wednesday night class. i just purchased your book and find it fascinating ... It's really like reliving some of the things I remember from 30 years ago. The book is fascinating and I am so grateful you wrote it, as I have been searching for Information about the group for 30 years. Although it was very very difficult for me to leave after a year , I had seen what I thought was incredible manipulations going on. I believe if i didn't leave at that point I would never leave. Bless you. john c.
ReplyDeleteThis is Spencer Schneider responding: unfortunately my browser is not recognizing me. Thank you for your kind words. Would love to connect with you - my emails is spencer3000@gmail.com
DeleteI was part of Alex Horns Monday night group at a church on 86th Street for a little more than one year. Ken Salas was posing as a student at this time. I was recruited by Frank Butler. Sharon would occasionally show up and was treated as a demigod. Over time I found out that Alex was having students marry each other and telling others to have children. The last straw for me was when Alex demanded that I slander my father, who I loved dearly. When I refused he demanded that I pay double the $500 tuition to remain in the group. I walked out that night and feel fortunate that I got away
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